The 2022 Rose Bowl (!) Thread

[Greginslc]

Actually, most of the lands footprint of the current University and Research Park were granted to us by the Federal Government after they essentially vacated Ft. Douglas. It got bigger when the DOD finished the transfer just before the 2002 Olympics.

[LuckyUte]

Yes, but Land Grant College/University is a specific term of art, that would in Utah refer to Utah State. The University of Utah is not a Land Grant University under the way that term is used.

List of land-grant universities

[LAUte]

[LAUte]

Like all of you, I am proud, proud, proud.

[Greginslc]

Definition accepted. I withdraw the argument.

[Carolina_Cycling_Ute]

@77ute

… champion San Diego St. Then, in Columbus, the Buckeyes drilled Utah 64-6. It was as ugly as it looks. OSU had 715 yards of offense, the most Utah had ever given up (and still the second-most in program history).Utah ended up going 2-9 that year and had, statistically the worse defense in the country. OSU went 10-3. A few interesting tidbits about that game, though. On the sidelines for Ohio St. that day was a young grad assistant named Urban Meyer. And on the Utah squad was third-string quarterback Scott Mitchell, a true freshman who redshirted that forgettable season. Ute freshman receiver Darren Hughes set a team record that day for most kickoff return yardage in a game (193 and since broken a couple of times). He was kicked off the team the next year after legal problems involving drugs.

That sums up my memories of Jim Fassel. No defense.

[LAUte]

@LuckyUte

The University of Utah is not a Land Grant University under the way that term is used.

Correct, but David P. Gardner and his successors certainly worked a fantastic deal with the feds to get all that land for the Research Park and everything that used to be Fort Douglas around the hospital, the dorms, and everything else. It really catapulted the University forward into the great possibilities that it has fulfilled since that time–and is now fulfilling.

[LuckyUte]

@LAUte

Correct, but David P. Gardner and his successors certainly worked a fantastic deal with the feds to get all that land for the Research Park and everything that used to be Fort Douglas around the hospital, the dorms, and everything else. It really catapulted the University forward into the great possibilities that it has fulfilled since that time–and is now fulfilling.

Unquestionably and agreed without argument. However, use of the term Land Grant University to refer to the University of Utah is incorrect and shall result in a warrant being issued and your Rose Bowl tickets garnisheed.

Fletch wages garneshied

[Carolina_Cycling_Ute]

Going thru the list was interesting. There are so many schools that I didn’t realize were land grant schools, such as Univ of Wyoming, or Ohio State. I knew that most that have Tech or A&M in the name were land grants, Just an interesting list IMO. Thx for posting it.

[chrisrenrut]

@Greginslc

er should have been playing in a playoff for the National Championship. The reason being there wasn’t a slot in a four-team playoff system available for a 3 loss team from the Conference of Cannibals - even after winning the conference championship. The 2021 Utah Utes are the reason the playoffs need to be expanded.

Baylor could make a similar argument.

Pitt - ditto.

Question - will the powers that be have the brass to make the change to make the playoff more inclusive?

Any Fletch reference, no matter how obscure, will get a star from me.

[LAUte]

@LuckyUte

Unquestionably and agreed without argument. However, use of the term Land Grant University to refer to the University of Utah is incorrect and shall result in a warrant being issued and your Rose Bowl tickets garnisheed.

I plead innocent. I made no such use of the term. Case dismissed. @Greginslc did use the term, but he was speaking metaphorically. I’ll get the charges against him dropped.

[U-Ute]

Well, scored some overpriced tickets via SeatGeek as a backup plan in case I’m not able to get any through the Ute ticket office. If I do, then I should be able to (in theory) either return these (it says up to Dec 29) or resell them.

[DataUte]

Anyone think that the talk of Ohio St.'s receiving corp doesn’t get CP3 going? That was a huge recruiting win for us (edit: he de-committed from OSU and signed with us). I’m sure he wants to prove himself in this game.

[77ute]

@Carolina_Cycling_Ute

That sums up my memories of Jim Fassel. No defense.

Utah was dead-last in the nation in total defense twice during his tenure: 1986 and 1989. 1989 was worse. Utah also led the nation in total offense in 1988. I honestly don’t think Fassel paid attention to the defense or worried about recruiting and developing players to fill those positions.

[77ute]

@DataUte

Anyone think that the talk of Ohio St.'s receiving corp doesn’t get CP3 going? That was a huge recruiting win for us. I’m sure he wants to prove himself in this game.

Didn’t he originally commit to OSU?

[SkinyUte]

@77ute

Didn’t he originally commit to OSU?

Yep.

[LAUte]

@77ute

I honestly don’t think Fassel paid attention to the defense or worried about recruiting and developing players to fill those positions.

I think that is beyond dispute.

[UteLawyer]

Yes, as I recall, Fassel actively switched players defense to offense. Usually, college coaches are trying to convince offensive players to switch to defense because the best athletes in high school get put at the skill positions, and the skill positions are more glamourous. But Fassel hated defense.

[BamaFanNKY]

Ohio getting a new DC after the Rose Bowl.

Jake Trotter

[DataUte]

I can’t wait for Fassel to coach the 2022 Rose Bowl… Someone want to start a Fassel thread?