Does this mean if there are any signs with the term “yewts” at their games they will be penalized?
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Excellent question. They are denigrating the people of a native American nation.
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I can see it now, they will have their “chant police” at every away game, with their lime green vests and whistles to call attention to anyone getting out of line.
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So, will all of the discriminatory acts BYU takes towards their own students and faculty be subject to fines?
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Now i am seeing some conjecture that the conference does not have the authority to impose on-field penalties outside of the NCAA rule book. So they can fine a team or expel the culprits, but they can’t change the rule book and impose a 15 yd penalty or any other in game penalties.
We’ll see how this all shakes out with public universities that deal with freedom of speech issues.
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BYU: always more trouble than they are worth.
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Yormark is a yokel. Fine? fine. Expel offenders? great. Not confer with the rules and refs? looks like an idiot.
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Quote from Terry McAulay, NCAA rules analyst:
"I don’t know what they think, but I do know the rules do not allow them to instruct the officials to penalize a team 15-yards for this type of fan conduct.
I also know they did not clear this with the rules committee or anyone else."
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I’m watching Terry’s posts. He is fending off the BYU mob. It’s hilarious and sad at the same time.
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I just can’t understand why no other school in the conference deals with this chanting issue S/
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There will be only one recourse for any team that plays byu-p in the future. Simply take the forfeit.
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I think the chants need to be dealt with, but you don’t have to go full Pat McAfee on the schools or the teams
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Do I like the chants? No
Do I think byu should reflect on why everyone doesn’t like who owns them? Yup.
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I see this differently (probably no surprise). The chants are obscene attacks on a discrete religious minority. Imagine the followings:
Chanting “F the Baptists” at a Baylor game. Or:
“F the Catholics” (or "F the papists) at a Notre Dame , Gonzaga, or Georgetown game.
“F the Jews” at a contestj with Yeshiva University.strong textg
It’s not decent and it’s not what we do in America. I support removing the offenders from the stadium and banning them for a set time period.
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I don’t see a problem with this. Like when Russell Westbrook pointed out the idiot who said something unacceptable to him at a Jazz game. Gotta go, bro.
But Yormark’s idea of penalizing the home team with an unsportsmanlike? Terrible idea, opens the door for a small group of trouble-makers to come to town to punish the home team, presumably at a crucial point in the game.
(Wait a minute.. if this somehow goes through, in honor of our Utefans fallen funnymen from the early days - Senioritis & Mr. Crimson - we owe it to them, and to Brett Yormark to find a strategically important home game on BYU’s schedule next year, dress in blue and make a trip to Provo, armed with an innovative chant that would punish BYU 15 yards at the right time of the game. It would require some creative thinking but I have full confidence we could summon that, in honor of our fallen pranksters.)
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Um…have you seen America lately?
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Spot on.
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On our way out of RES last weekend a chant of, “F&@$ BYU,” broke out among the kids in the east concourse. Yeah, they’re dumb college students, but that is ridiculous. It wasn’t one or two kids either. It was dozens. The U needs to make it very clear to the MUSS that they’re not interested in the risk of being fined and that anyone doing that in 11/7 can expect to be summarily escorted out of the facility.
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. Point taken. Here’s my revision:
IMO it’s not what decent people do in America.
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On that we definitely agree.
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