Had all those things gone his way, he’d have still lost at Oregon. He’s like 1-19 vs. Altman.
Give the poor guy a break! He’s 2-18.
Coach Whitt hasn’t accomplished anything Larry hasn’t in the PAC 12 and Larry wins a higher % of PAC 12 games. If we fire Larry we should also fire Kyle. We have peaked in football and can’t get past Oregon, USC, Washington. We blew a 21 point lead to Washington.
Well, he has won the south division twice (I know bb doesnt have divisions) been to a bowl game virtually every year, put a huge number of players in the pros, and his teams repeatedly perform better than the recruiting rankings would suggest.
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Not to mention that Rice-Eccles pretty much sells out every single game with a growing waiting list for those wanting to buy season tickets and has an awesome student section whereas the Hunty is emptier each season and we have a mostly apathetic student body that cares little about college basketball.
(I WILL give a shoutout to the students who are showing up for basketball as while they are small in number, they are enthusiastically supporting the team).
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Hang a banner for going to a bowl game every year and performing better than the recruiting rankings…what a joke.
Larry has done the bball equivalent of going to a bowl game almost every year and his teams consistently finish higher than preseason predictions.
Larry has three NBA starters, if you do the math, that’s similar to the NFL starters Kyle has considering there are five times as many players on a football team.
So you’re saying our basketball fans and student section suck horribly. Yes, I agree.
When you compare strictly wins, Larry vs Kyle, Larry has a slight advantage. I’m not saying either one should be fired. I’m just looking at the numbers and being rational.
You are very bad at trend reading. Kyle and the football program are trending up in every major category. The basketball team has, at best stagnated.
The football program went all in on 2019, that was the peak and now we are rebuilding again. We got blown out the last two games of our peak season.
Larry also made it to the PAC 12 championship game only a couple full seasons ago.
Somehow nobody realizes that. Our offense was terrible last year even with Ty Jordan. We weren’t contenders last season. We won’t be competitive again for two more seasons.
There’s an obvious inconsistency in our fanbase’s expectations with Kyle and Larry. Why?
It was five seasons ago and we got blown out in that game by Oregon. Larry has a 40% winning percentage in the pac12 tournament (which ranks something like 9th in the conference). That was the same year we got blown out in the tournament to Gonzaga, which only advanced to the sweet sixteen that year btw.
And, again, you really really don’t seem to understand trends and how they work. Utah football is continually pointing upwards as a general trend. Utah basketball has plateaued for the last five years as a NIT team at best.
Also, Larry has a 50.3% in conference. Whitt has a 52%
List of Utah Utes football seasons - Wikipedia (missing 2020 but I added that in as well).
So we should fire our basketball coach and go back to Boylen era, fire him again, and then praise the next guy for trending up.
Bottom line is Larry and Kyle are both .500 coaches, you found so yourself in your latest tally of their conference records. Kyle had the benefit of not having to rebuild. Kyle had great teams, let it slip, righted the ship, and now it’s slipping backwards again because of a weak offensive line. For some reason when Larry stumbles for a couple years, just as Kyle has done, everyone wants him fired.
I think you’ve made as strong of a case as one could for Krystko. Personally, I like him, but, he’s in a brutally cutthroat profession that sometimes doesn’t seem fair. But in his case, I think he’s had a pretty fair shake, and when you’re paid like a top 20 coach, you’re gonna have to win like a top 20 coach. And he just hasn’t.
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So the one person who is still arguing for Larry K to return next year is…a troll who has a 20 year history (at least) of trolling various ute forums. Thats pretty much all you need to know.
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How many weeks had the football team been ranked in the top 25 or the top 10 over the last five years? How many weeks has the basketball team been ranked?
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There are over 300 basketball teams, so a top 20 football ranking is equivalent to a top 60 basketball ranking. Please put this together, I’d be interested.
There are 65 power five football teams and 65 basketball teams. We ought to be able to compete over everybody else (except maybe Gonzaga). Thats why we spent all that money on facilities and all that money on Larry. Its a lot harder to put together a football team than a basketball team. One or two or three good recruits can make a bb team; not even close with a football team.
But the football team has been ranked a hell of a lot; basketball team hasnt been ranked once since Poetl (I think).
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I don’t care how much Larry makes - it’s not like I’m paying his salary. I only care about getting to the tournament.
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Don’t feed the troll. He mentioned in thread a bit ago that he has Ute football in higher regards to BBall because of Whit’s success, and players in the NFL.
Moose is now just flipping his position to get a rise out of you. Just ignore him, he thrives on attention.
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K stumbled for five years. And again, you are bad at trends. Kyle is getting better and better every year. And now, he didn’t let them slip in the 5-7 years. We significantly upped our competition. He adapted, improved, and got better and we keep getting better. If you want to compare overall winning percentages we can do that too, because let’s be honest it’s like Larry K has faced a murderer’s row of OOC opponents either.
We have Kyle at 59% (almost 60) in the PAC-12 era and Larry at 57%. Kyle is still better.
Can we get back to mocking Utah boys’ names? I’m here for that.
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