It was five seasons ago and we got blown out in that game by Oregon. Larry has a 40% winning percentage in the pac12 tournament (which ranks something like 9th in the conference). That was the same year we got blown out in the tournament to Gonzaga, which only advanced to the sweet sixteen that year btw.
And, again, you really really don’t seem to understand trends and how they work. Utah football is continually pointing upwards as a general trend. Utah basketball has plateaued for the last five years as a NIT team at best.
Also, Larry has a 50.3% in conference. Whitt has a 52%
So we should fire our basketball coach and go back to Boylen era, fire him again, and then praise the next guy for trending up.
Bottom line is Larry and Kyle are both .500 coaches, you found so yourself in your latest tally of their conference records. Kyle had the benefit of not having to rebuild. Kyle had great teams, let it slip, righted the ship, and now it’s slipping backwards again because of a weak offensive line. For some reason when Larry stumbles for a couple years, just as Kyle has done, everyone wants him fired.
I think you’ve made as strong of a case as one could for Krystko. Personally, I like him, but, he’s in a brutally cutthroat profession that sometimes doesn’t seem fair. But in his case, I think he’s had a pretty fair shake, and when you’re paid like a top 20 coach, you’re gonna have to win like a top 20 coach. And he just hasn’t.
So the one person who is still arguing for Larry K to return next year is…a troll who has a 20 year history (at least) of trolling various ute forums. Thats pretty much all you need to know.
How many weeks had the football team been ranked in the top 25 or the top 10 over the last five years? How many weeks has the basketball team been ranked?
There are over 300 basketball teams, so a top 20 football ranking is equivalent to a top 60 basketball ranking. Please put this together, I’d be interested.
There are 65 power five football teams and 65 basketball teams. We ought to be able to compete over everybody else (except maybe Gonzaga). Thats why we spent all that money on facilities and all that money on Larry. Its a lot harder to put together a football team than a basketball team. One or two or three good recruits can make a bb team; not even close with a football team.
But the football team has been ranked a hell of a lot; basketball team hasnt been ranked once since Poetl (I think).
Don’t feed the troll. He mentioned in thread a bit ago that he has Ute football in higher regards to BBall because of Whit’s success, and players in the NFL.
Moose is now just flipping his position to get a rise out of you. Just ignore him, he thrives on attention.
K stumbled for five years. And again, you are bad at trends. Kyle is getting better and better every year. And now, he didn’t let them slip in the 5-7 years. We significantly upped our competition. He adapted, improved, and got better and we keep getting better. If you want to compare overall winning percentages we can do that too, because let’s be honest it’s like Larry K has faced a murderer’s row of OOC opponents either.
We have Kyle at 59% (almost 60) in the PAC-12 era and Larry at 57%. Kyle is still better.
Whittingham is the 2nd highest paid coach in the PAC 12. We are not a top PAC 12 football program, we are behind Oregon, Washington, USC, ASU, and Stanford.
However if you look at the NFL players from Utah high schools, we have an extraordinary amount of NFL talent here and no other P5 school competing against us for recruiting in our state. It’s not just Whittingham putting local kids in the NFL, everyone is. As a matter of fact there are more non-Ute local players in the NFL right now than Ute players, which is unacceptable.
Larry got a high salary in the same way a doctor gets recruited to Rock Springs, WY and gets paid much more than he/she would in Salt Lake. Basketball coaches don’t want to come here, there’s no local basketball talent in Utah, the fans don’t attend games, yet we think we are Duke and entitled to go to the NCAA every year.
And white parents here name their kids Rad, Talon, Cutter, Gunner, etc. The parents who stick to traditional names have children who excel at football, but not often basketball.
Lol. Kyle is demonstrably better. Give Larry an extra two percent and he’s in the tourney more often than not. Two percentage points is a pretty big difference my guy.
I struggle with my personal expectations of Utah basketball. Especially when I see sources rank them as one of the top 25 basketball programs historically.
Clearly, Utah was a top 10-15 program under Majerus (when I was a student), and a top 25 program under Pimm and Gardner. But that’s only comprises 40 of the last 80 years. The other half of those 80 years were mediocre to dreadful.
I cringe when I make this comparison, but Utah basketball reminds me a lot of UNLV basketball. Both programs were incredible during tenures of 2-3 coaches, and incredibly average otherwise (UNLV - Tarkanian, Kruger, Gregory).
Over the years I’ve slowly realized that the Majerus years were magical and probably a once in a lifetime experience for most of us of a certain age. But I’d love to have a few years that mirror Pimm success over a decade. Larry ain’t bringing us that.
