This last game is a symbol of the entire K3 era

I never met any Utah boy named Sancho.

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Whittingham is the 2nd highest paid coach in the PAC 12. We are not a top PAC 12 football program, we are behind Oregon, Washington, USC, ASU, and Stanford.

However if you look at the NFL players from Utah high schools, we have an extraordinary amount of NFL talent here and no other P5 school competing against us for recruiting in our state. It’s not just Whittingham putting local kids in the NFL, everyone is. As a matter of fact there are more non-Ute local players in the NFL right now than Ute players, which is unacceptable.

Larry got a high salary in the same way a doctor gets recruited to Rock Springs, WY and gets paid much more than he/she would in Salt Lake. Basketball coaches don’t want to come here, there’s no local basketball talent in Utah, the fans don’t attend games, yet we think we are Duke and entitled to go to the NCAA every year.

And white parents here name their kids Rad, Talon, Cutter, Gunner, etc. The parents who stick to traditional names have children who excel at football, but not often basketball.

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We have folks literally demanding a statue of Kyle and immediate firing of Larry and the argument is…59% vs 57%

You’re being very inconsistent with your assessment of the two coaches and the above argument clearly supports this.

What gives? What’s the bias here??

This presumes that you know the numbers for SC and Stanford. Which we don’t.

He’s actually fourth highest paid.

One of the dumbest is Newbomb.

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Lol. Kyle is demonstrably better. Give Larry an extra two percent and he’s in the tourney more often than not. Two percentage points is a pretty big difference my guy.

Couple coaches got well deserved raises since October.

this is a solid fishing expedition. Not your best but your are giving it a huge try. kudos

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So…a reasonable salad bar, but skip the steak and get the malibu chicken?

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I struggle with my personal expectations of Utah basketball. Especially when I see sources rank them as one of the top 25 basketball programs historically.

Clearly, Utah was a top 10-15 program under Majerus (when I was a student), and a top 25 program under Pimm and Gardner. But that’s only comprises 40 of the last 80 years. The other half of those 80 years were mediocre to dreadful.

I cringe when I make this comparison, but Utah basketball reminds me a lot of UNLV basketball. Both programs were incredible during tenures of 2-3 coaches, and incredibly average otherwise (UNLV - Tarkanian, Kruger, Gregory).

Over the years I’ve slowly realized that the Majerus years were magical and probably a once in a lifetime experience for most of us of a certain age. But I’d love to have a few years that mirror Pimm success over a decade. Larry ain’t bringing us that.

Tom Chambers and Dan Vranes ain’t walking through that door. You got Nico, Treyton, Ryder, Duncan, Jackson, Jaxon, Jaxton, et al at the door.

Nothing wrong with Nico but yeah, the Jaxon Jackson Jaughkshauns are played out.

Lon Kruger almost came to Utah after Majerus left. What might have been…

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How did that not happen? Was this part of the Mark Few convinced us that Giacoletti was a great coach ploy?

IIRC Majerus quit in mid-season. At the time, the Utes were making an ultimately successful tournament run with Kerry Rupp as interim coach. The Utes didn’t want to cause team turmoil and fire Rupp to hire Krueger (or anyone else) in the middle of that season. The UNLV job opened up at around the same time, and Krueger took it. He didn’t want to wait until the end of the season for a chance at the Utah job.

Kruger went to UNLV for more money. He also claimed he didn’t want to be in a cold winter climate. Who knows whether or not to believe that?

Chris Hill didn’t hire Dana Altman because Altman wanted a 10 year contract and Hill wouldn’t go for it.

If so, that is too bad. Chris Hill told me that Rupp was never going to get the head coaching job at Utah. The period after Majerus left was kind of crazy, and I don’t believe people were doing their best thinking. So what you say is certainly plausible.

I am second to no one in my love for Big Rick. A signed pen and ink drawing of him hangs in my office. Still, I think the way he left the program was tragic and damaging.

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