Pac 12 to expand into Southern California and Texas?

[tinydocholiday]

@Greginslc

…gotiate. As far as “raiding” the BIG 12, that is all going to be dependent on how contractually bound the teams are to the media rights contract. Looking to the ACC as an example, the buyouts to “jump” might be a poison pill no team can afford to pay. I would expect the PAC 12 to have such a poison pill built into their inter organizational agreement, too.Given the successes we have had and continue to have, I think the troll’s kerfuffle is a tempest in a very small teapot. Much ado about nothing. Given the 12 team football playoff coming in 2024; the general strength of basketball is improving; and the domination of the Olympic sports (even after the exit of UCLA and USC), the PAC 12 will be just fine. The four teams moving on to the SEC and B1G? Probably not so much…but they will get paid.

Whistling past the graveyard, brother.

[NewbombTurk]

@tinydocholiday

our fanbase

Right…

[sweetgrass]

@tinydocholiday

…ut for us, but I can see the Big12 saying “No thanks, we’re good.”And lol on all the city hubris. Houston is the #7 media market in the nation. Orlando, Cincinatti, DFW, SLC… And if your criteria, oddly, is merely “beautiful in the Fall” you’d be hard pressed to find somewhere prettier than West Virginia. I think you’re just being willfully blind here. But again, I see this throughout our fanbase. [Also think the academic smack talk is funny coming from us when the Big12 has multiple schools ranked higher than we are. Haven’t looked, but I know Baylor, TCU, and BYU are for sure.]Keep defending the PAC if you want, but I hope we don’t end up without a seat when the music stops because we insisted on acting like we were “too good” somehow and failed to read the tea leaves.

In one breath you talk about how arrogant it is for the PAC to raid the Big XII, but in the next mention that UA and ASU are destined for the Big XII.

Something pot …Kettle … black.

[tinydocholiday]

It’s arrogant to act like we’re too good for the Big12. It’s ignorant to think the PAC is going to raid the Big12 and not the other way around.

[Nevercoug]

@UteBrave

Why is it delusional?
The best option for the PAC is to try to get some B12 schools. Not saying it will happen, I’m saying that is the best option. Why aim so low?

They have signed away their rights for the next 6 or 7 years. There is financial penalties THEY ARE NOT AVAILABLE

[Nevercoug]

@Uteanooga

Does SMU deliver the Dallas/FW market?

NO ONE IN DFW CARES ABOUT SMU

[sweetgrass]

Sigh, this is like the old days of Utefans where every other post was a byu troll.

[Nevercoug]

@sweetgrass

In one breath you talk about how arrogant it is for the PAC to raid the Big XII, but in the next mention that UA and ASU are destined for the Big XII.

Something pot …Kettle … black.

The PAC 12 CANNOT RAID THE BIG 12 !!! THE DEAL IS DONE FOR THE NEXT 6 YEARS.

The lack of reality of fellow UTE fans on this site is depressing.

PAC12 is in serious trouble

[DataUte]

@sweetgrass

Sigh, this is like the old days of Utefans where every other post was a byu troll.

Also like old days offseasons on Utefans. Esp. before PACmas. Conference moves always bring out the the opinions. Opinions are like @$$-holes. Everyone has one and they typically stink.

[sweetgrass]

@Nevercoug

The PAC 12 CANNOT RAID THE BIG 12 !!! THE DEAL IS DONE FOR THE NEXT 6 YEARS.

The lack of reality of fellow UTE fans on this site is depressing.

PAC12 is in serious trouble

shouldnt you be working on your MLM downline, your victims arent going to scam themselves?

[tinydocholiday]

Except he’s right. Not sure why you want to blindly hold onto a false reality, but there will be no raiding of the Big12. It’s absolutely going to be the other way around. My point is that we should be positioning to get ON that train, not giving it the finger. Our fanbase is living in a fantasy world from some reason.

[sweetgrass]

cool

[BamaFanNKY]

@tinydocholiday

is merely “beautiful in the Fall” you’d be hard pressed to find somewhere prettier than West Virginia.

WTF? I moved from LA to the border of KY, Ohio and WV and I kid you not people were blowing their heads off at a higher clip and doing more drugs than anywhere I have lived in my life. WVU is not what I think of when I think “beauty.” If for some reason I have to drive from NYC back home to the Nashville area I will drink five pots of coffee to make sure I don’t have to stay the night in that Pennsylvania/Maryland/WVU area. Hell, I don’t even like being in Western Virginia by Va Tech.

I’ll take farm town Corvallis over Morgantown and I am not a fan of the Beavers neck of the woods. Maybe compared to Pullman you have a shot… But at least you can escape to Spokane or get to Seattle. The best you can do in WV is go to Pittsburgh or DC. Which now that I type it I understand those suicide #s.

[justaute]

Having lived in Pittsburg, and rode my bike into that sliver/panhandle of WV, I think that area is beautiful. Still, like Bama, I’d take the northwest.

[BamaFanNKY]

@justaute

Having lived in Pittsburg, and rode my bike into that sliver/panhandle of WV, I think that area is beautiful. Still, like Bama, I’d take the northwest.

It’s beautiful but depressing. Plus, being as good looking as I am I can’t risk it. I may hear that banjo and I don’t roll with anyone who’s great at Archery.

[mUUser]

@tinydocholiday

Go look at the end of year rankings in both sports for the PAC schools vs the Big12 schools.

When I strip out the four exiting schools and insert the new schools, I count two B12 schools in the final football rankings and four P12 schools. In the Way too early polls I count three B12 schools and four P12 schools.

In basketball I have six B12 schools currently ranked and two P12 schools.

I understand your argument. There’s merit to it. I like alternate ways of viewing what’s happening. But, I don’t think it’s time to panic…just yet. The B12 lost its two marquee programs and added four spare schools. The P12 lost one marquee program and another top tier program and is considering adding two spare schools. I’d like to see how this shakes out a bit before waving the white flag. You may be right in that the best move is position ourselves for the B12, but, the B12 was left for dead just a couple of years ago and seemed to recover. We may be able to recover as well.

[DataUte]

Doesn’t matter if the fanbase is arrogant, the most intelligent in the world, humble, stupid. Fanbase won’t have any impact on what happens. It’s all the ADs, conference commissioners, university presidents, tv executives. Not like quieting any opinions on a fan board is going to change anyone’s mind.

[tinydocholiday]

Truth. And I hope our leadership is being smart about this. I just thing our base is in for a rude awakening when we land in the Big12, and it should be cause for celebration instead of angst. We should be hoping we land in the Big12. If they decide they only want 4 I can see us being left out. They’ve already got BYU for the Utah market, and CU would be another Mountain time zone school. They don’t really need us, especially if UW goes (Oregon has similar delusions of grandeur at the moment, and is angling first and foremost for an invite from BIG).

[justaute]

@BamaFanNKY

It’s beautiful but depressing. Plus, being as good looking as I am I can’t risk it. I may hear that banjo and I don’t roll with anyone who’s great at Archery.

LOL. Pittsburgh is pretty cool. It’s a progressive city. Outside of it, not so much.

[BamaFanNKY]

@justaute

LOL. Pittsburgh is pretty cool. It’s a progressive city. Outside of it, not so much.

They have that sammich with fries as well! Pittsburgh does have a cool factor about it. My first college roommate was from Pittsburgh. Other than the yellow towels he was not too bad.