Yeah for me in Seattle it’s main and WA/Wazzu on Comcast linear… all the other regionals are included but you have to stream them.
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When it first started, P12N was bad. Over the decade plus they improved and became pretty solid.
ESPN, FS1, and the Networks on the other hand…
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This was my favourite part. It felt like a network for the fans.
It was beautiful, in my opinion, one of the best parts of Pacific conference membership.
We made it a point to buy TV vendors who had it. They usually had 2-3 entities of the network, so while waiting for the Utes to kick off and destroy USC, we might watch an old gymsastics meet on another chanel instead of fricken Clemson…
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Not sure where else to put this.
Utah simply ‘moving’ seems like an odd speculation… the real question is how long until the next seismic conference shift. It certainly can’t be long either way, nor can the continuation of the Big12 and ACC as we currently know them.
All of that said, there is a reason that Utah did not sign the Big12’s outrageous Grant of Rights.
https://twitter.com/HoopsWeiss/status/1794529476212060182?t=aLUwFU4OxL4-vDk6VTm1-A&s=19
The ACC makes no sense at all. I’m pretty sure President Randall is trying to position the U to join whatever the present Bg 10 becomes.
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If the ACC can create a large western wing and raids the Big-12 western teams as those two conferences fight for P3 status… I don’t care.
I don’t have any loyalty to the Big-12, and if this would mean Utah & BYU are in different conferences again… gotta admit, it starts to sound attractive.
EDIT - if Wazzu and Oregon State are part of an expanded ACC / whatever they call it, I’d be OK with that.
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Another rumor has Utah, Oregon State, SDSU and USF to the ACC, after UNC, Clemson and Florida State leave.
Are 5 schools out west enough to take the edge off the travel?
Could the TV money really be that big a lure to make a move? It would be a foolish move, IMO, because the TV money would probably go down in time with an altered ACC.
And we’d have a vicious year in the Big-12 - Public Enemy #1.
(I think this is mostly offseason speculation to keep the clicks going.)
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Yeah… which is why the narrow ‘conference hopping’ angle Weiss is sharing here seems short sighted (misguided?). Additional broader scale realignment in the near future is almost a given… that’s the bigger picture. I think the recent settlement will only escalate that.
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Going from the Pac-12 to the Big 12 to the ACC in the span of a few years would give Utes fans the spins, but the final landing spot, a potentially rebuilt ACC in the wake of FSU, Clemson, and UNC’s departures, likely among others too, would be best for the brand.
This seems like nothing more than “here’s more!!” speculation in ACC territory as a reverb from the rumors of their big schools departing.
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Yeah, also seeing speculation about the academic fit being a driving factor. But again, I think this particular thing is speculation and is putting the cart before the horse. There will be some seismic shifts coming up, jumping right now doesn’t make much sense.
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This is very much a BS clickbait thing.
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selfishly, the ACC is so more interesting to me than the Big XII, but nothing will replace the PAC12.
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Back when there were rumors of the PAC-12 and ACC combining (prior to Oregon and UW leaving) that was an interesting prospect. Now? The ACC feels so far flung. If the Bay Area schools were more serious about their football, I could see attaching ourselves with them more meaningfully.
As it is, they are in complete disarray. I’d rather stay close with the “Four Corners” for now.
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One plausible scenario that could be triggered by a big domino (think FSU & Clemson leaving): the top ACC and B12 schools form a new super conference to keep pace with P2. Western division could include Utah, CU, UA, ASU, Cal, Stanford, Wazzu, OSU etc. Bigger picture though is a NCAA breakoff or “P1” which everyone would obviously be trying to get into.
Meanwhile, the notion of simply conference hopping makes little sense.
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I don’t see the attractiveness of joining another dying conference. The last one falling apart was not a lot of fun. Once the big dogs leave the ACC it will be wobbling on 3 wheels.
At least the B12 looks stable for now and we maintained alliance with the 4-corner schools.
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while I fuly recognize the peice written about Utah flirting with the ACC was simply click bait, I’ll admit the idea of Utah in that conference is at least intriguing. I also think there is mutual benefit in universities that have great academics like the ACC.
I think there are a few schools in the ACC that have a higher football ceiling than any of the schools in the Big XII. Even if FSU and Clemson bolted, that conference still has Miami, VA Tech and UNC. And historically its a much better hoops conference. In the end its all just shuffling chairs on the deck of the Titanic anyway.
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Utah is taking a massive hit to research monies by dropping to the B12. They do have to turn that around one way or another.
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Is there some documentation available that includes numbers to illustrate the degree of this decline? I haven’t read or seen anything to that effect. If anything, Taylor Randall’s comments seem to suggest that Utah is doing better than ever with research grants.
Bear in mind that I think that Utah’s research and AAU membership benefit the entire state, including BYU, so I applauded that announcement that Utah had joined that club and that research is moving ahead, full throttle, or so the public announcements seem to suggest. Furthermore, what is stopping Utah faculty members from conducting joint research efforts with any school in the country which has faculty who are conducting similar research? It seems a bit far-fetched, in my mind, for a professor at some place like, say, Michigan, to refuse to collaborate with someone from Utah, based solely on the conferences in which their athletic teams compete. Are schools really that narrow minded and allow athletics to be the tail that wags the research collaboration or funding dog? If so, that implies that Kansas or Colorado will gladly collaborate with Utah but not Texas, Johns Hopkins, Yale or Chicago, to name a few.
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This subject has been debated previously. Although, I am not sure any data was provided in that disussion.
I think that this is speculation and difficult to quantify. However, I do remember that there were vehement arguments during that debate.