I’ll miss those byu student didnt get into the U’s Medical school because of religious bias posts.
Wait, no I wont.
Well, that is going to be an expensive adventure for Provo. Medical Schools are expensive as hell just in their staffing and infrastructure alone.
I guess this is how the LDS Church has decided to use their “charity services” money.
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this is good for the U Utah south wil still lean on u of U for alot. Like the perpetual fund this could brring people from all over to get training and go back and help all over the world.
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theiy are still BYU ( edited to fix correct usage of they /their)
Hopefully, Taylor Randall will inform the AAU that BYU will be pleased to accept an invitation, at that association’s earliest opportunity.
Laying aside the complete levity of the previous comment, I’ll be even more shocked if an AAU invite ever comes than I am picking myself up off the floor from today’s announcement. I never expected anything like this from BYU. Furthermore, the announcement indicates that the focus will be teaching future doctors, not engaging in research, which dovetails completely with BYU’s stated mission (education, rather than research). As a result, anyone who seriously thinks that this is the ticket to joining the AAU is totally mistaken, IMO.
In addition, I suspect that this will be cooperative and synergistic with Utah’s medical school, rather than competitive. The US and world need doctors, which this will help address. BYU isn’t going to engage in cancer research because Utah and the Huntsman Institute already do a phenomenal job of that. There are plenty of other areas where BYU can make a positive contribution, without reinventing the wheel or duplicating what Utah does, which is why I’ve been opposed to making nearly all of Utah’s junior colleges four year institutions and duplicating what the existing schools already offer.
This is much bigger than the rivalry and something I applaud, just as I did when Utah joined the AAU. I’m glad it happened, even though I never thought it would in any way.
This is a good thing.
That said, how long will it be before the homers will be saying “our medical school is so much better than Utah’s”.
Funny that you think it hasn’t already happened.
Oh great. Yet another red flag I have to watch out for when selecting a medical practitioner.
Don’t you mean “Blue Flag?”
There is this concept of academic freedom that will be the stumbling block that will get in the way if it was ever BYU’s ambition to get AAU recognition.
That being said, I commend them. There is a dearth of trained doctors in this country and around the world. If the plans are to emphasize underserved populations with more trained professionals, how can that be anything but goodness?
It took their law school about two years.
That said, it’s very tough to fake it as a medical school. Mere hype doesn’t get you there.
Thank you for being someone who “gets it.” Anyone who tries to engage in medical school smack, as a way of tying it to the rivalry in athletic competition, totally misses the boat. This is about something much greater, so I appreciate your take on things, ditto others who see this for what it really is. It’s about making the world a better place, not trying to collect off-the-gridiron/hardwood “scoreboard” points.
Taylor Randall has publicly endorsed this effort and stated that Utah will collaborate with BYU’s future medical school. You can add that to the large list of reasons why I have tons of respect for him, ditto Mark Harlan (especially Mark Harlan, to be more accurate).
I was delighted when Utah joined AAU because I think that this benefits the entire state, just as BYU’s medical school will. As for the AAU, anyone who thinks BYU’s medical school will generate an invite is out in left field. Last April, I attended a dinner, at which BYU president Shane Reece emphatically stated that BYU will continue its stated mission of teaching first and foremost, with research taking a distant backseat. Since the AAU is focused on research, adding BYU would be an oil/water mix, even if any issues of academic freedom were fully resolved. That’s okay because both elements are a crucial part of higher education.
One might as well state that Sky West accomplishes nothing of value because it doesn’t fly big planes by Boeing and Airbus and instead only feeds passengers to Delta and others that do. Each airline has its role and place in the overall picture, which both Sky West and Delta do well, IMO.
Thanks again for what you wrote.
sounds like a big part of the purpose is to train doctors from abroad who will return to their home countries, particularly in the third world.
We need a lot of doctors in Rural America. If there is somewhere we needed to see more people trained for a job, it is doctors, nurses, and the rest of healthcare. Adding the school in Provo isn’t a bad thing, it will increase opportunities.
That said, building a Medical School from the ground up is hella expensive. If it’s a teaching school without a significant research focus, it will be even more expensive to operate because of the lack of revenues research brings to the table.
The best thing about this is that all those applicants from BYU will no longer be able to complain that they were denied admission to the u’s medical school because they are LDS
Truth. The number of MDs who are retiring early is stunning. Rural physicians are really hard to come by, and require subsidies to make the numbers work, to be halfway competitive with what they could make in the great economic engines, aka “cities”.
Tele-medicine can help the rural physican problem, helping patients get connected MDs in their region, and AI will help those physicians better cover a much deeper mountain of knowledge coming from specialists in cities.
Yes we do. In the 12 or so years we’ve lived in Ea NC I’ve had 5 or 6 different PCPs. I realize that’s anecdotal, but when an area can’t keep Docs you have an issue. Fortunately, we can find specialists who have stayed in area, and can cover PCP duties. It just gets expensive in either time or cash to use them.
What is your thought process for this?
DOnt think staying in one place automatically helps this; one of the major downsides of getting al lmy care at the VAMC is that my PCP automatically changes every 3 years… many of the specialties are staffed by residents who are there for anything from 3 months to a year.
it cant be started enough how well Taylor Randall is doing at the helm of the U.
Other than himself and the other presidents screwing up the pac 12 with dollar sign eyes when the writing was on the wall , even then we landed with a safe area and can continue to grow.