Agree 100%. I was just making fun ot the knuckledraggers.
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LOL. I live in the Confederate Capitol of Kentucky (which lasted literally 2 months). My family fought on both sides but my wife’s family is different. Her Great Great Great Grandfather was part of the 4th Regiment, Kentucky Mounted Infantry for the Union. He was part of the Unit that took the Capitol for the Union army and ran out the Confederate army. Funny enough, I can’t prove it but his regiment captured one of my ancestors regiment and sent them to Illinois.
I bring it up because many of her family try to play the Confederate thing and I remind them their Ancestor would kill them for thinking that way. He was a poor as dirt coal miner in the end:
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My wife’s hometown in Kentucky is right on the Ohio River. My wife and her siblings were taught of the Union forces’ campfires on the northern banks of the Ohio, but Kentucky didn’t get involved.
Still had segregated schools & other things I’ll forego mention of here, but it was / is definitely “southy”.
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My girlfriend in College was from upstate NY. They had segregated schools (by zoning) and called a section of town something you don’t say anymore. It didn’t make it southern. The racism in the South now is more in the rural areas. Where I live is a college town and does seem more southern but it’s also a huge cultural center and where the US Government sends refugees to get their start. Mainly the refugees from more rural areas. The New South is a real thing.
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Ok, I’m a big dumba*#. I thought Unclerico was a Spanish word that i wasn’t familiar with so I googled it 
. To be fair I just landed after a 14 hr flight with minimal sleep:grimacing:
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I think that’s right, in general. One of my research colleagues from India went to UK, which like many campuses around the country is an island.
I’ve been connected to my wife’s family for 35 years. My mother in law just turned 103. When my wife and I first got together, her family had stories that would blister paint on a wall, like you would never think that happened in the US. All 20th century stuff. So, my perspective on Kentucky and the south is through an African American lens, since I have no reason to go there, otherwise.
Things change and evolve, thankfully. Not as fast as we want, and things get stalled in unpredictable, unfortunate ways.
Like Kurt Vonnegut’s character Kilgore Trout said: “I’m not apprehensive about the future. It’s the past that scares the bejesus out of me!”
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I remember visiting Louisville and hearing it was the northernmost southern city and southernmost midwest city. Was only there for a couple days and zip lined underground, went to the Louisville slugger museum, and ate a Hot Brown and that’s about all I have to add.
Ok, time for where this went…
Ne said you weren’t Sounth if you didn’t eat Collard Greens and/or Mustard Greens with your other vegetables for dinner, and if you didn’t eat Farina or Grits for breakfast.
Based on that test, I have been “South” for a very, very long time; and I guess I was…Southern California! 
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Well, the current Kentucky governor is pretty decent – not very “southy” or good “southy.” The state legislature – very “southy.” 
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I don’t know. The current Governor is an old school Yellow Dog Democrat like Clinton (Southern) and the State Leg is more like MAGA GOP which is very Queens Crony Capitalist. Lol
Oh black people in Kentucky have stories. Really outside of Louisville you have small coal mining black communities or those near college campuses. Many black people have roots of family members escaping the deep south enlisting in the Union Army. Then part of the Louisville community you have Muhammad Ali. It’s a really weird state. When I moved here in HS I was lucky enough to work for Nick Clooney (George’s Dad and Rosemary’s brother) and he enlightenede on the various regions and cultural differences. His family was very progressive and if I remember right had something to do with the Underground railroad or maybe they just lived near a home along the route.
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Texas is getting less and less southy, it seems. This plaque was added to then state capital there in 1959 (just as the Civil Rights era was peaking) and they finally took it down in 2019.
What’s wild @LAUte that the same year Santa Ana, California got rid of their confederate monument. The amount of Southerners that settled in Los Angeles post CW really gives it that awful history. Not to mention out by Lone Pine you have Alabama Hills etc etc.
My former co-worker, an Auburn grad, Space Command Lt Col McGrew, informed me that the south is; God, Sweet Tea, and the SEC.
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The Alabama Hills (foreground) and the 14,000 foot ridge line of the Eastern Sierra.
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Wow. Nick Clooney was a TV anchor here in SLC for a time, in the 70s or 80s, I think.
Small world. Very cool story, I’ll tell my wife & her siblings.
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This trend is part of the story about the PAC-12’s death.
1 big thing — Charted: Cutting the cord
Data: Nielsen. Chart: Axios Visuals
Broadcast and cable fell below 50% of total TV usage in the U.S. last month for the first time ever, Axios’ Sara Fischer writes from Nielsen’s latest viewership data.
- The lack of major sporting events in July took a toll on traditional TV networks, which still hold the majority of major sports broadcast rights.
- The one exception was the Women’s World Cup, which saw record viewership numbers before the U.S. Women’s National Team was eliminated.
Streaming garnered a record 38.7% of total TV usage in July.
What’s next: Entertainment giants now need to wrestle with what to do with their broadcast and cable TV assets, given the increasing pace of cord-cutting in the U.S.
- Disney CEO Bob Iger made it clear to investors last week that Disney is seriously rethinking its commitment to the traditional TV business — and is considering selling its flagship networks, like ABC, FX and National Geographic.
- Other media firms, including Warner Bros. Discovery, are committed to their cable networks as a profit-driver for now — but they’re taking steps to bolster their streaming products for the future.
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Not just LA. One of my favorite places is Great Basin National Park, just inside Nevada west of Delta, Utah. Wheeler Peak is the high point at over 13,000 feet, but there’s a spire right next to it : Jeff Davis Peak. Turns out… Jefferson Davis Peak.
Hmmmm… different era.
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I see you brought up Rupp. Honestly do you guys think Racism only existed in the South pre 1967? My travels have taught me everyone is as racist as the south. They just raise a flag for it. Let’s not forget who those Southern Plantations were supplying. Northern factories.
Did I just CRT?
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I did not know he had a gig in SLC but I guess he left California at one point to help launch KTSU. Being in TV news is a bit of a vagabond job.
Weirdly one of the only Rural black communities in Kentucky I know of run the Jefferson Davis Monument. It’s one of those insane Kentucky stories. It’s technically a state park.
https://parks.ky.gov/fairview/parks/historic/jefferson-davis-state-historic-site
This area of Kentucky where I am is Southern and was pro CSA but as I mentioned the rebs went running quick.
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Confederacy apologists did an amazing job of romanticizing their Lost Cause. They had lots of help–from Hollywood, for example. See “Gone with the Wind” and “Birth of a Nation.” Naming military bases after Confederate heroes was also a master stroke–one they should not have gotten away with. My son attended the Boy Scouts National Jamboree at Fort A.P. Hill in Virginia. A.P. Hill was Robert E. Lee’s chief lieutenant and was killed 7 days before the surrender at Appomatox.
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