SDSU for Colorado is an acceptable trade-off. No way to replace USC & UCLA. Then again no way for B12 to replace Texas and Oklahoma but they’re collecting schools in an effort to do so.
Ideally, add SDSU, sign a media deal and call it a day. Doubt it will be that clean cut though.
Is it ok for me to point-out the incorrect usage of “comprised of” in the statement?
Hehe
It’s between acts at the concert so I’m passing time. Otherwise my conscious mind is telling me I’m done with it all. My subconscious is still screaming.
Perfect. So, basically bye bye PAC-12. How did that all work out for you?
So, “blah blah blah blah. We are in no hurry and don’t care about the fans or alumni.”
I got told to go back to cougarboard last night for being realistic. Not only do you like good music, we are realistic. .
The only way a coast to coast super conference works is if there is a substantial western wing:
While it’d be nice to see our Utes here in triangle, Winston-Salem or Chancellorsville or even Blacksburg once in awhile I don’t see merging with the ACC. That could change if the money were right. But do any of us really see this happening?
Based on today it seems like one or a blend of 3 scenarios:
Kliavkoff has exactly nothing, and Taylor Randall and Harlan have been badly fooled. (Having a hard time believing that)
The PAC has been brilliantly collapsed from the outside, credit Yormark as the most powerful man in CFB, with an assist from Deion Sanders.
Another seismic shift has been catalyzed, where it was assumed the next shift would happen in 5-7 years. How many more can the B12 take in at $31.5M? What about the ACC?
Or can the PAC hang in there for another 5 years, somehow? (Not looking hopeful, today).
If the ACC swoops in to take 8, a merger might make sense. (Humor me a sec). If it’s 4 or less, western CFB becomes deluded as refugees get spread among 3 east-heavy conferences.
Just saw on the news an interview where Brett McMurphy (who broke the CU story) said the Big-12 wants to stay at 14 for 2024, after they lose UT and OU after this year. That seems to make sense in terms of being authorized to replace full-share schools at $31.5M. Expanding to 16 seems a stretch in the current media market, to me.
This is why Randall and Harlan get paid to fly in heavy weather.
I need a drink… and I don’t drink.
Didn’t CU’s AD said no P12 media proposal has been presented thus far?
Yes. He also said CU was committed to sticking in the PAC until one was presented.
One week ago.
Either Kliavkoff has never had anything, it’s a complete charade and he’s getting some kind of acting bonus and will write a book about hypnosis…
Or the PAC has been collapsed by Yormark and his consultants…
Or CU really wanted out long ago, which is what Deion apparently said (I don’t know when)…
Or it’s more complicated and maybe the league adds SDSU and gets some lesser amount of money, now.
No matter what, this all changes in 5-7 years (or maybe much sooner, if it’s a fire sale dissolution right now).
If UW and OU bail for $31.5M, they join a league with a school 3000 miles a way and two others 2500 miles away, with a tougher road to the playoffs just based on the travel. (I don’t think they will, but I’ve been wrong before.)
Arizona may be desperate enough to bail. They have nothing to lose, and gain in hoops, their best sport.
I may be wrong, which is not out of the realm of possibilities, but I think SDSU brings more worth to the conference. A consistent top 25 basketball program, a good football program, a good baseball program and good mens and womens volleyball programs. Plus, they have totally stepped up their academics. Colorado is horrible at almost every sport other than skiing and varsity spliff rolling !
The presidents are all plugged into the details. “No proposal” may literally just refer to a formaility. Sounds like CU’s move may stem from a couple mega donors who have insisted on it… thus not necessarily tied to the media deal at all.
When a Company / Network the size of Disney / ESPN is slashing costs and dropping talent as fast as they are, and the fact they took a back seat to the B1G media deal, it makes you wonder if these grandiose numbers being thrown around are nothing more than a gross overpayment for content that will ultimately end up bankrupting these networks shelling out the dough. We’ve seen it with MLB where almost a third of the teams lost their broadcast partner (and the revenues) to bankruptcy. Add the knuckleball to the mix of streaming, where many of the players here have mad guarantees they can make, lower cost operational platforms and a flatter coverage marketplace, and now you have an even more complicated mess to sift through - and they don’t necessarily need ratings to sell ad space. Something tells me bankrupting Apple, Netflix, Google or Amazon would be a hell of a lot harder than any current broadcasting network.
Colorado left the BIG 12 for money, so it shouldn’t surprise anyone they are leaving because they think they are getting more by going back. When it’s all about the money, this is what one does. Yeah, the money was one of the reasons why Utah jumped, but it wasn’t the only reason. Having a shot of playing for a National Championship, better research collaborations, more national exposure for student recruitment…it was a big list.
One last thing, before the BIG 12 finally settled at 10 schools, they had dropped to 8 and many felt they were going to go the way of the Dodo. They grabbed WVU and TCU and kept going because they still had UT and Oklahoma. Now they added a bunch more G5 schools to replace UT and Oklahoma. Getting back the bottom feeding Buffs - their only P5 add (and since they used to play in the conference, are they really an add) is not adding TV eyeballs or cachet to their conference. They survived, and we will survive, too.
Colorado is an interesting “intersection” school. Geographically, they’re barely in the West, the state is a blend of Midwest conservativism and left coast liberalism.
CU’s recruiting and alumni are in California, in really high numbers. When they joined the PAC alumni donations shot up. Deion wants to pivot to Texas on recruiting (understandable) and he brings the religion…literally.
Boulder has always been an island culturally, and academically strong. Academics often don’t care much about sports, but we’ll see if there is a gradual change over there, if the overt religious stuff takes a toll.
“We conquered Boulder!” (Exaggeration.)
Not our concern anymore, but still kind of interesting.
The weird thing is recently there have been talks that the Big 1G may snag Kansas, KSTATE and/or Iowa State. The Big XII is very ripe to be raided again by the B1G, ACC, SEC and yes… Even the Pac12.
