Utah Football 2024

What Greg said.

There are situations where an athlete is injured, there is pain involved, off-season surgery should “fix” the problem, but playing on it doesn’t substantially risk permanent injury… just playing in pain.

Trevor Reilly played the 2012 season with an ACL injury & a knee brace… then went on to play in NFL a few years.

The former walk-on played the entire 2012 season with a torn ACL. He suffered the injury in April 2012. Instead of opting for surgery and rehab, which would have cost him his junior year, he put on a brace and played with the pain.

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Advisable? No comment.

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Isn’t a lisfranc a pretty serious injury, especially for a football player? Every time I hear about one, it’s a massively painful injury that requires months and months of recovery, if they can come back at all.

I’m obviously not a doctor, I’m baffled at why they would not shut him down if they even suspected that’s what it might be. If not for the player himself, but for his inability to perform on the field (which, in retrospect, was pretty obvious).

I get that kids need to play through pain. But when it loses games - as it did with both BYU and ASU - that seems like a pretty big coaching fail.

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Yes, it sidelined Gianna Kneepkens from the basketball team for the whole season. Wasn’t even a contact injury.

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From clinical observations

It was probably starting to tear or a partial tear at half - it probably progressed to a full tear by the end of the game.

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I don’t know, either, but there have been instances of Whittingham shutting a player down because of injury. One example is a promising LB we had named Reshawn Hooker, who was medically retired before he saw the field - 3 concussions in a year, he was done. (Compare to Tua Tagovailoa fiasco in the NFL).

In this situation it may have been mostly guesswork without an MRI, but deemed not career ending if he played through the pain.

Rose was definitely amped up and the adrenaline was flowing, Wilson probably wasn’t well prepared to enter the game, so it might have been Bottari handing off as the offense goes backward. Last year in the Vegas Bowl it was Rose who wasn’t prepared to enter the game, Bryson soldiered on through his worst game, ever.

Just my $.02, not an attempt to provide a good answer… those are in short supply.

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I want to know what the QB depth chart is for Saturday.

  • Wilson, with some coaching up?
  • Bottari the Ferrari?
  • ???

Zemaiah Vaughn played QB in HS, but…

I nominate Pepa running the wishbone.

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That is NOT correct, it was an assumption people made because is her post.

Here is her latest post:

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I have to agree with you. NO FARGING WAY!! (to paraphrase a bit of Johnny Dangerously)

edit to add:

Ok, just read that no one knew the extent until Monday afternoon. Still, there seems to be something “off” with the injuries for the last 2 years. I haven’t a clue as to what. Maybe it’s just one of those statistical anomalies that pop up every so often.

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This is the second year in a row that Utah has had three QBs get injured. That is unheard of.

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That clarification makes me feel less terrible about the coaching. Now I can go back to griping about the play calling and lack of prep and UA field. We are truly cursed this year though.

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I hope you are right, bearing in mind that that her clarifying post may have resulted from someone from Athletics reaching out to her. If someone did, that doesn’t mean she’s not being honest. It could mean something positive–that someone inside Utah athletics saw how damaging the rumor was (assuming it was unfounded) and hustled to get it corrected. I would not blame anyone from Athletics or the football program for seeing the need to stamp out such a rumor.

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All the evidence supports the update.

If Utah had known he was out for the season the update would have come at the Monday presser, but that presser was held before they got the actual diagnosis, thus the update the next day.

Her initial post, IMO, was twisted by those wanting to place blame.

Looking at Utah’s injuries they’re not the overuse types, they’re freak injury types.

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Rumors flying around right now that Isaac Wilson is sick.

In case you wondered how it could get worse….:man_facepalming:t3:

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The “freak” nature if the injuries is the amazing part. The rate of injuries, and the key positions and players involved, must make Utah a true outlier among its peer schools.

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Serious question (for an absurd season).

If Wilson is sick and Botarri gets pancaked who would take the snaps? Would we just shove Bernard or Barton under center and shrug?

Honestly there should be a point where you cancel the remainder of the season for the health and wellbeing of the players.

We are very close to that point.

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It would just be Utah’s luck if Wilson couldn’t go and Botarri got hurt. Heaven knows whoever is playing QB tomorrow, the Buffs will go after him. (Not saying they would intentionally try to hurt anyone, but you can’t tell me that defenses don’t know the dire depth situation for Utah at QB.) In that case, yeah, just put in some former high school QB and run the ball every play. Then, hope the defense plays the game of its life and CU has seven turnovers and three bad snaps on punts.

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Same rumor has Charlie Vincent as Bottari’s backup. I’ve still not seen decent confirmation of this yet so who knows? It’s attributed to Ron McBride saying it on Hans Olsen’s show per KSL Sports.

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I am good to go! Anytime, anywhere.
“Run to the bushes by the hydrant and get open on 3… BREAK!”

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With the last two seasons producing an unfathomable number of injuries—including many season-ending ones—I can only conclude that one of five causes are to blame (listed in order from least likely to most likely):

1- Someone or something put a curse on the team.
2- The team is composed of wimps and injury-prone players.
3- Something is dreadfully wrong with the strength and conditioning program.
4- Utah is the unluckiest team in the country.
5- A combination of 3 and 4.

Note: I don’t believe in curses (though I’m starting to wonder), and No. 2 is more of a joke.

But really the terrible luck and misfortune began, IMHO, Dec. 6, 2019, when an 11-1 and favored Utah team got blasted by three touchdowns by Oregon in the PAC-12 title game. Then they got blasted even worse by Texas in the Alamo Bowl. Next came the bizarre truncated 2020 season and the tragic death of Ty Jordan. 2021 saw the murder of Aaron Lowe. The 2022 season was good with another conference title and a Rose Bowl bid. But that game sucked, and it was the last time we really saw Cam Rising. Then the injuries mounted and mounted and mounted. It’s inconceivable.

Is there anything that can be done to turn things around? Surely the law of averages will turn in Utah’s favor soon, won’t it?

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Sammy Mora from 247 seems as baffled as we all are as to the state of Utah football. It’s almost like a comedy.

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