PAC 12 week 1 lines

Utah is 32nd in team talent to BYU’s 97th. Utah will have to lose a large swath of players to lose that game.

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Yeah. With Ty Jordan the Utes beat byu by at least three scores. Hopefully one of the RBs steps up by the 11th and will wreck them in the 2nd half.

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1st team, yes. And if they stayed healthy like they did that year (in PAC12), they would still have been as good as they were, maybe even better and battle tested. But winning strongly also instilled confidence. A couple injuries to a few players and we didn’t have the depth the rest of the season to be as great. We’ll never fully know.

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No, BYU is not awful. I just don’t the football team is anywhere near as good as last year’s record would make some think. I think last year was a year of 1 offs for BYU. Like Bamafan was saying, BYU’s recent (4 or so years) shows a 7 to 8 win team. Can BYU win this year? Yes. Will they? Don’t think so, Whit should have the team ready mentally to play every week. He’s done pretty well with that, especially since we got into the PAC12.

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You’re right, so many of BYU fans are rather insufferable. @wingnut brings good perspective and occasionally uncomfortable questions. Those are good to have, they help keep us grounded.

You brought it up. I responded. You thought that current Utes are as insufferable as byu fans back in the day. We’re not. Mostly, we are ambivalent.

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Ambivalent, or indifferent?

I’m much more of the later, and will continue to be until BYU actually wins a game again (which as discussed here, will certainly happen eventually)… Then I’ll move toward ambivalence - for the year that it takes to return to dominance by our team and indifference by me. It will take a move by BYU to a P5 conference, and then several years of recruiting adjustment, for BYU to again be regularly competitive with Utah.

For now, I’d really rather be playing almost anyone else that week, frankly. Bring on TCU.

BYU is sort of where Utah was in 2012 and 2013, some good #1’s but generally thin on talent after that. Unless the P5 team is rolling in the Dumpster Fire category, or the looking to the next game category, they should generally be able to handle beating BYU.

To the asterisk that was last season, Dan Patrick’s show yesterday talked about how strange it was to see Coastal Carolina and Liberty playing in a bowl game. If one didn’t know we were talking football, they would’ve assumed we were talking basketball.

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What is happening today with Utah/BYU is similar to what happened to Utah/USU after they were no longer in the same conference. Sure, the teams continued to play for years, but the Utah/BYU rivalry quickly displaced the Utah/USU rivalry as the most important in the State. Is the game important to fans and participants? Clearly it is. Is it ever the most important game for Utah? No! Just as the USU game lost importance and devolved into a fun game with some bragging rights the same is becoming true for the BYU game. Unless BYU finds its way into a P5 conference, the game will take on less and less importance to participants and fans (the media is another story).

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If only we played each other head-to-head every year so we could really know who is more talented!

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Where have I ever said that BYU football is more talented than Utah football? I didn’t.

10 years of losses confirms your insight!

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Like I said, Ed O is the new Gene Chizik. He’s more worried about leaving his wife and fighting fans:
https://twitter.com/si_ncaafb/status/1434299903019081733?s=21

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I also think UCLA could be turning a corner. They’ve played very solid tonight.

Side eye looking at this classic:

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Utah State hit a 2 run homer in the top of the 3rd

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UCLA is now 4-0 at home against the SEC this century.

And down goes Cal

imagine if Rolavich loses to USU?

Aggies upset Washington St

They just did