Clearing the way for Urban?
Where is the dislike button?
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Hey man, donāt blue star the messenger. 
Who gets the first courtesy call?
Here comes the Urban speculation.
They should have not let Ed O go.
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Iām sure glad they did
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I am as well. Heās perfect for LSU.
Honestly, I think Ed O and Helton were very similar but being forced to go to LSU helped Orgeron to grow as a coach. If he would have stayed at 'sc he would have been very similar to Helton in my opinion.
Or maybe not. This from the assistant AD at USC
Thamel also says itās not true.
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Except the one thing Ed O has always done is adapt to the game and recruit. Two things I donāt think Helton does.
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LOL! What a s*** show!
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This talk has been happening all season. Iāll believe it when itās official. Until then, their āsourcesā are just people speculating.
To an extent. I mean, itās not like he has to do much to recruit to LSU or even USC. Remembering the games he served as interim head coach for 'sc, it really wasnāt anything too remarkable.
I had this thought back when he was at 'sc, āHeās at least a solid coach with a chance to become something good/specialā. Comparing that to my thoughts on Helton which were along the lines of āHeās at least a solid coach and I donāt think heāll really become a special head coachā¦ but I could be wrong and mis-evaluatingā. To me Ed O progressed like a professional athlete sometimes does when he/she is traded. Sometimes thatās what it takes in order to get to that next level. I really canāt fault 'sc for not keeping him.
But you do have to recruit to LSU or SC. You have to recruit players that match the expectations of that fanbase. SC may seem to be a national brand. They really arenāt currently. Also, Ed O has to fight every SEC school poaching from their state. Building a fence around Louisiana is tough. There was a time both SC and LSU would pick the players they wanted from their state. Now, only LSU is in position to do so. That has more to do with Ed O than anything. When Kiffin went to SC many of the flips happened because they were Coach O commits.
You do realize that the common line out here (Los Angeles) is that you can build an entire team of 5 and 4 star players by just driving up and down the 405, 10, and 110 freeways right (and I added the 10 and 110, really they just say the 405)? Sure you still have to actually put in some work, but not only does the school sell itself, kids grow up wanting to go there based on history.
There are some schools where you really donāt have to do much. Take Urban Meyer for example. It was well known that he hated recruiting. In order to mitigate that he went to Florida and sure Florida wasnāt the destination it once was, but all it took was a little coaxing to get kids to go there again. USC, LSU, Texas, Ohio State, etc etc. are schools where you may have to do a bit of work to get things going again, but itās not like trying to recruit to Baylor, Utah, Ole Miss, Michigan State, etc.
Iām with you on needing to get the right players, but again for 'scā¦ over 10 million people in L.A. County alone. Iām pretty sure youāll find what you need when you start to expand that recruiting range out to the rest of California.
I stand by the fact that the Ed Orgeron of today is light years ahead of the guy that was interim coach at 'sc. Heās grown into his potential and has a great support system of coaches and administration that helped him get there. Iām not sure he gets there if the 'sc admin kept him.
This Adam Maya has been wrong numerous times before. Iād wait for a more authoritative source or an announcement from the school itself.
I grew up in the Inland Empire. I think this was true back when I was in HS. The world is smaller now. Honestly, as much as I love California and my extended family in Texas those arenāt the hotbeds they used to be. For a state as large as California there are almost as many top rated recruits in Georgia with less FBS P5 schools. This article is interesting:
That said, I donāt think we disagree. Ed was a āfailureā at Ole Miss. I think he needed LSU to bring out his best.
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Interesting article, good find.