What are our choices? The Big 12 doesn’t appear to be interested in Utah.
BTW, I renamed this thread because it appears to be the largest one on the death of the PAC12. Hopefully, people post the rumors and gossip here. But who knows, because we’ll have 20 threads by the end of tomorrow.
Maybe Utah, Stanford, and Cal can join the ACC and become part of the ACC West. The Florida State and Clemson will shut up about leaving the ACC, because they can recruit in California.
This is my biggest concern right now. Lots of the talking heads seem to think it’s a foregone conclusion that Arizona, ASU, and Utah would come over as a package deal, but we’ve heard little from the B12 indicating they actually want that. A couple reports this morning from the AZ beatwriter that they’re targeting Arizona and plan on stopping there. Then what?
Worst case scenario for Utah is a real possibility, as much as we don’t want to admit it.
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I just don’t see the truth to ‘the Big 12 hasn’t shown interest in Utah’. They’ve talked about the 4 corner schools (poor, poor UNM), but they were the P5 schools most available. SDSU, UConn also mentioned, but G5 (and they would offer less to them). If UA and ASU stick together (or Arizona BOR don’t let UA go without ASU), they will be odd numbered again and Utah is a natural fit, keeping links to CU and BYU.
Feels like Big 12 was saying they’d take 1 more after CU to create scarcity and urgency as they are playing a high stakes game of chicken.
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B1G just expanded to 18. Superconferences are on.
I have some distaste for much of what’s happened, but does Yormark stop at 14? Does he let BYU and UA and CU be the western fringe of a league that’s trying to become #3? (I don’t think that would be a good business decision).
It may be that whether ASU & Utah get a full share is an issue. Presumably Yormark needs the support of his media partners to proceed from here(?)
Time to focus on other stuff today, for awhile.
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I don’t know why the Big 10 doesn’t consider Utah and Arizona. Both are AAU schools. Both have respected scientific research (which is a big advantage to getting into the Big 10). Then the Big 10 can subdivide into a Western Conference and Eastern Conference easily. Then Utah can play Rutgers once a decade. 
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Oh good, we’re “showing interest” in our last possible resort. 
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Good Lord I hope Utah’s administration has a plan.
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“Man stranded in desert ‘showing interest’ in glass of water”
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- ND is not going to SEC
- ACC is locked until 2036
- Enlighten us on what California schools the SEC grabs? Fresno State would be a great cultural fit for sure. Don’t see Cal joining the SEC.
SEC will be fine since their top teams are better than the B1G top teams and they can wait out either FSU Clemson legislation or until 2036.
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ESPN is reporting that Oregon and Washington to the B1G and Arizona to the Big 12 is a done deal.
I guess we will be looking forward to playing Washington State in the MWC.
I’m getting pessimistic.
The way the rumors are flying, it doesn’t appear that they have. I think they got caught by surprise, and they didn’t have a backup plan.
Well…I am sure Uncle Phil Knight has not been passive during all this drama. What other billionaires are PAC-12 fans?
You act is if we live in the 2010s. We live in a world about $ and staying relevant. Also, anyone with eyeballs knows the SEC is the Power conference currently. Are you under the belief that Cal or Stanford would turn down an SEC invite? How about Utah? I bet you Notre Dame would rather be in the SEC over the Big 1G. More so, FSU meeting this week they were talking about leaving the ACC.
The one thing we all should have learned by now. Never say never.
Apparently he’s gonna be a Big 1G fan now.
My understanding is that it will be up to ESPN to approve the additional shares. If there is a limited budget, it seems like in hindsight the Big XII would have been better off with Utah and Arizona than Colorado and Arizona. I wonder who shot first, Arizona or Oregon.
Considering how unlikely the Big XII is to ever get ACC teams i would think they’d want the inventory of all three remaining
Holy Alice in Wonderland. You may well be right. So a TV network is in charge. Shocking, but not surprising. And 100% sad.
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Greg Sanky is the opposite of any P12 Commish. He’s quietly expanded to add teams that bring eyeballs for TV Viewers and chanc s for teams to win titles. When asked about stopping at 16 he had a great answer.
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I hope you are wrong (and I suppose you do too). That would be very uncharacteristic of Taylor Randall and Mark Harlan. But that doesn’t mean you’re wrong…
This is awful.
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