COVID-19 Discussion (No Politics)

Good point.

Not to side track from everyone’s favorite panic but I actually do find the moon landing debate fascinating. Again, not a denier. But I’m also not entirely and firmly in the camp that believes there is no possible way it was faked. And firmly not in the camp that believes there is absolutely no way it could have happened. In my fully nonexpert and lightly researched opinion, both sides have some interesting arguments and counter arguments.

I personally find it to be a remarkable accomplishment either way. The idea that you could perpetrate such an enormous fraud and maintain it for all these years. Or the idea that you could construct a vehicle that could be flown to moon, land, take off again, and return to earth safely with the technology of that era. Both seem unbelievable to me.

ā€œMember’s Markā€? I prefer Maker’s Mark. It goes down smoother.

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Here goes

  • Cancel classes March 16 and 17 (does not apply to Utah Asia Campus)
  • Beginning March 18, move to online instruction for the rest of the semester (does not apply to Utah Asia Campus)
  • Restrict all university-sponsored events to fewer than 100 people
  • Restrict international and domestic travel, as well as in-state travel to large gatherings

I got to work on moon rocks and I have seen a lot of them. They are directly from the moon, not something knocked off and found on earth. The astronauts picked them up there. You cannot in a million years convince me otherwise.

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there’s probably a chance I’m going to be survived by my dogs

I put my dog down two weeks ago, my wife is despondent, the world is up-side down, and just now one of my dental crowns cracked in half. 2020 is shaping up into something I don’t want.

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Where did that 300-ft incredibly loud flame/smoke producing thing disappear to?
As I said before about this viral outbreak: they both come down to mathamatics.

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Time to pull out this gem:

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Today while stuck at home thinking about the great issues of our time, I decided to do some elementary modeling. This scenario exercise is for illustrative purposes only. If someone has a better idea on plug mortality rates by demographic, I’ll run them for you. Obviously, the 2% rate for a total might be high by 100%. I have not taken the time to create a plot…

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Devil’s advocate, they could have gone up, orbited and came back down. Obviously they’d have to be in on it.

What was different about the mineralogy that made them uniquely from the moon?

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Devil’s advocate, since they already achieved escape velocity with much smaller rockets, why would they develop something infinitely larger and more complicated just to achieve escape velocity?
The hardest part is getting away from Earth. The next hardest part is landing accurately on the moon. We already achieved the first, the second remain to be seen. Neil Armstrong almost smashed into the moon. If he had we all would have witnessed it on live TV. (Unlike the Russians who refuse to broadcast their launches).
Funny that in over 50 years not one mathematician or physicist has proven that it cannot be mathematically achieved
Backed up by all of the public data that was provided showing essentially the rocket design, the weight and type of the fuel the thrust of the engine. The moon dust that’s still inside the lunar capsules of the Smithsonian. The fact that it was performed live on TV etc…

It’s just a little disheartening to imagine that decorated war heroes, exemplary pilots, engineers, gifted mathematicians and extraordinarily brave and dedicated human beings; thousands of whom all came together in a very daring and public commitment to try to do this would all be considered to be complete liars - and keep the secret forever - Just to try to make the Russians feel bad.

It’s funny how immediately after 9/11 people were/still are propagating a ā€œtheoryā€ that it was impossible for a tower to collapse like that. I don’t know why there’s such a cynical component of our being that instead of actually learning and understanding building design and knowing the flaws that are capable of making a building collapse, is more easily transmitting to some fantastical notion that Dick Cheney somehow completely wired a public building with explosives in order to propagate a conspiracy.
But not that many people have actually been in or on top of a burning building. I have. Those that have, know exactly how a building like that can collapse. That’s why those firefighters were so f****** brave. Because they knew that that building was at risk of collapsing.They knew exactly what they were doing when they went in that building. It’s completely disrespectful to their legacy and to the people that died to imagine that somehow reality isn’t realy reality.

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I think it is ironic that those rushing to stockpile don’t seem to comprehend that they are violating one of the wisest parts of cautionary action: avoid public places with lots of people.

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Must be fake. All the tin foil hat people can’t be wrong. It’s impossible to get through the Van Allen belt, I tell you.

I did thermal conductivity measurements on them. Not mineralogy per se. Yet they are basaltic in composition (a common volcanic rock on earth), some are more like earth mantle rocks with very high volumes of an iron-based olivine that is quite green. These more ultramafic basaltic rocks also had a mineral called plagioclase, like on earth. Sometimes the CA-dominated plagioclase included inclusions of melt. Only the amount of calcium in these rocks was very high, much higher than found on earth in basalts. They dated older than earth rocks at the time. Now rocks nearly as old have been found on earth. Feldspar, of which plagioclase with lots of calcium is one, but also the other end-member orthoclase (more sodium and potassium) had an unusual composition. They had an unusually high amount of barium in the crystal structure.

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I worked with an oil & gas trade floor for the energy company during 9/11. I was in early that morning, as were the traders who are there early when Wall Street begins trading. We had 10 TV on different channels, as all trade floors do. I saw the second plane hit the tower. I told the traders that the building was going to collapse. The fire from the jet fuel was going to weaken the structural integrity of the building’s metal skeleton on the upper floors. And at a certain point, the metal was going to yield, then buckle and the floors were going to compress. Once that happens, the weight of the collapsing building would pancake the entire structure. Then a bit later exactly that occurred.

I never understood why folks don’t understand that.

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So anyway, about that corona virus thing…

I keep reading on facebook that it’s way overblown. If only the lying media would stop spreading panic…

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