Interesting article.
Because the death rates from the two with the data thus far are radically different. I tend to agree the COVID-19 rate is probably overstated because of lack of data on who may have had mild or no symptoms, but right now itās a 3.4% death rate for COVID. Thatās 34 times the flu. That cannot be ignored.
FWIW, my stepson is an ER doc at the VA and he said some predictions could have half the country getting COVID in some form before they can reign it in.
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Thatās what the LA Times article says. We are so worried because donāt know. This could be horrible or just another flu epidemic.
āI think a big part of it is fear of the unknown,ā said Dr. Otto Yang, an infectious disease expert at UCLA. āThe enemy you donāt know is much scarier than the enemy you know.ā
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More data. Oneās head starts to spin.
How Bad Is the Coronavirus? Letās Run the Numbers
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Iāll admit Iād do this if I could. But I canāt ā at least not responsibly.
Coronavirus Is Triggering Fear of Going to Work
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This is the kind of question we expect from techie types. Fortunately, we have all learned to humor you guys. Itās kind of a compassion thing.
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I saw this on Facebook, as it was posted by a friend of mine who is an emergency department physician. I am not taking a position on this, but I do find this point of view persuasive. It was posted by a physician named Abdu Sharkawy:
Iām a doctor and an Infectious Diseases Specialist. Iāve been at this for more than 20 years seeing sick patients on a daily basis. I have worked in inner city hospitals and in the poorest slums of Africa. HIV-AIDS, Hepatitis,TB, SARS, Measles, Shingles, Whooping cough, Diphtheriaā¦there is little I havenāt been exposed to in my profession. And with notable exception of SARS, very little has left me feeling vulnerable, overwhelmed or downright scared.
I am not scared of Covid-19. I am concerned about the implications of a novel infectious agent that has spread the world over and continues to find new footholds in different soil. I am rightly concerned for the welfare of those who are elderly, in frail health or disenfranchised who stand to suffer mostly, and disproportionately, at the hands of this new scourge. But I am not scared of Covid-19.
What I am scared about is the loss of reason and wave of fear that has induced the masses of society into a spellbinding spiral of panic, stockpiling obscene quantities of anything that could fill a bomb shelter adequately in a post-apocalyptic world. I am scared of the N95 masks that are stolen from hospitals and urgent care clinics where they are actually needed for front line healthcare providers and instead are being donned in airports, malls, and coffee lounges, perpetuating even more fear and suspicion of others. I am scared that our hospitals will be overwhelmed with anyone who thinks they " probably donāt have it but may as well get checked out no matter what because you just never knowā¦" and those with heart failure, emphysema, pneumonia and strokes will pay the price for overfilled ER waiting rooms with only so many doctors and nurses to assess.
I am scared that travel restrictions will become so far reaching that weddings will be canceled, graduations missed and family reunions will not materialize. And well, even that big party called the Olympic Gamesā¦that could be kyboshed too. Can you even
imagine?Iām scared those same epidemic fears will limit trade, harm partnerships in multiple sectors, business and otherwise and ultimately culminate in a global recession.
But mostly, Iām scared about what message we are telling our kids when faced with a threat. Instead of reason, rationality, openmindedness and altruism, we are telling them to panic, be fearful, suspicious, reactionary and self-interested.
Covid-19 is nowhere near over. It will be coming to a city, a hospital, a friend, even a family member near you at some point. Expect it. Stop waiting to be surprised further. The fact is the virus itself will not likely do much harm when it arrives. But our own behaviors and āfight for yourself above all elseā attitude could prove disastrous.
I implore you all. Temper fear with reason, panic with patience and uncertainty with education. We have an opportunity to learn a great deal about health hygiene and limiting the spread of innumerable transmissible diseases in our society. Letās meet this challenge together in the best spirit of compassion for others, patience, and above all, an unfailing effort to seek truth, facts and knowledge as opposed to conjecture, speculation and catastrophizing.
Facts not fear. Clean hands. Open hearts.
Our children will thank us for it.#washurhands #geturflushot #respect #patiencenotpanic
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Well there are 18,000 deaths from 280,000 cases of the flu, and about 3,000 deaths from 100,000 cases of COVID 19 according to WHO, so I may be missing something. But not sure I see the higher fatality rate.
The CDC calculates that about 8% of the US population gets the flu each year, so about 26 million. So far this flu season about 14,000 have died, according to CDC estimates.
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It appears you are only looking at flu hospitalization for your 280k number and not the total number of illnesses. Thatās why you donāt see it.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm
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Guys, Iām not trying to push a narrative, but I am a compulsive reader (just ask my wife) and when I see something about COVID-19 thatās interesting and possibly helpful, Iāll post it. Hereās another article. It looks non-partisan to me.
Donāt bet the farm on your stepsonās claims. The model scenarios Iām seeing at the Federal Reserve arenāt a fraction of a % of that.
Doctor v Federal Reserve. Hmm, what to pick? But while youāre there, why if the economy is at an all time high did you have to lower the interest rate half a basis point? Seems counter intuitive to say the least.
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The AHA is expecting a surge of patients that will far outstrip the capacity to handle them.
He says government planning assumptions based on past flu pandemics suggest a surge in demand for intensive care that could range somewhere between 200,000 thousand and 2.9 million patients.
Reports of Lombardy Italy area hospitals already stretched to capacity.
https://twitter.com/racheldonadio/status/1236430756412567559
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Hereās how it spreads.
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I donāt know about the rest of you, but I have found that itās difficult to avoid touching my face. (Hey, sometimes my nose itches.) So Iāve invented a solution:
Iām looking for investors now. A veterinarian friend of mine is creating some prototypes for me, and animal testing has already begun.
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How many millions do you need? Will you take a check?
Well, the word ādonorā is right by your name on this site. Soā¦.
Top health official to older Americans: āDonāt get on a cruise shipā
Dr. Anthony Fauci offered stark advice.
A top U.S. health official on Sunday warned Americans who are elderly or have who underlying health conditions not to get on a cruise ship as the number of documented coronavirus cases continues to rise within the United States and globally.
āSomething thatās important, that I hope the American people appreciate is that the risk of getting into trouble with this infection, namely if you are infected, is overwhelmingly weighted toward people with underlying conditions and the elderly,ā said Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, on NBCās āMeet the Press.ā
āIf youāre a person with an underlying condition and you are particularly an elderly person with an underlying condition, you need to think twice about getting on a plane, on a long trip,ā he said. āAnd not only think twice, just donāt get on a cruise ship.ā
Fauci said health officials should be able to āget a better handleā on the number of the people who have contracted the coronavirus now that testing is more widely available. But he said people āneed to seriously look at anything thatās a large gathering.ā
āYou have to realistically be concerned about community spread,ā he said, referring to people who get sick from contact with other sick people in their community.