BYU football brand suffering

After BYU started 4-1 I had a few contacts say as much. There are some very reasonable fans in that fanbase but typically you won’t find them on message boards. They’re about as far from the CFP as San Jose State is at this point in time.

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I wouldn’t say I feel bad for him, but he does seem like a decent enough guy.

I remember watching that P12 series with OSU and Gary Anderson…following him throughout the season. At the time, I wasn’t that impressed with Sitake in terms of having “it”, as compared to other reasonably successful coaches. I just didn’t think he’d make a very good HC, and I used to argue with Sancho quite often that Bronco would be more successful than Sitake. Bronco may have been weird but he was a pretty good coach.

But, who does BYU turn to? If Jay Hill is the answer why wasn’t anyone beating down his door for a big time coordinator job? I kinda think they’re stuck unless they pull an unknown rabbit of their hat.

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Ah, you are right. Although they will hire coordinators that aren’t, the indication is that the HC has to be.

Yep - I thought 6-7 wins was the ceiling and most of my (reasonable) friends thought that was crazy and they could compete for the conference championship if it weren’t for the SEC defectors but otherwise could maybe get to a NY6 bowl. I don’t know what players on their roster could have led to that conclusion, but it’s normal crazy talk.

I miss Sancho. I even gave a guest lecture to one of his classes.

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Robert Anae is still coaching

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I’m going to start a vicious rumor - BYU is contacting Oregon State & Wazzu about joining the PAC, agrees to waive any potential litigation earnings, and will share their HD truck.

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So Zona is financially strapped. My guess is so is ASU. Colorado is probably still paying the Carousel and whatever Deion got (hope they got a buyout clause if he jumps). Then you have Utah who isn’t in any sort of dire straits financially.

This BIG 12 thing could be very short lived when the G5’s and BYU come looking for a full share, and the next TV contract won’t cover it…not even close.

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Exactly why I consider the B12 to be a temporary home for the next few years until the next big CFB shakeup.

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There is only one type of coach that can succeed at BYU and that coach is Lavell Edwards back in the 1970s when unrealistic expectations weren’t piled on him.

Kalani is the best possible coach they can reasonably expect if the requirement is that the coach is active LDS. But nobody there realizes this and so my guess is not this year or next, but the year after when they aren’t competing in the Big 12 (especially if we are) they’ll fire him.

And then the story has already been written, but my guess is that BYU football will follow a very similar trajectory to Utah basketball and dwindle into obscurity.

That is really painful to say about Utah basketball.

I don’t think that BYU will follow the same build into a P5 contender that Utah has either. There is a reason we gave Aaron Roderick every shot in the world at Utah and still had to let him go. There isn’t a person on staff at Utah that I would trade them for straight across.

Their only shot really is an amazing NIL deal… and we all know how college football players are dying to meet the president of a local credit union.

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Even with NIL, there is an inherent cheapness (we’ll teach you financial principles and help you get a favorable loan for a car!) and then there’s just the whole honor code and culture that just isn’t for very many star athletes when they have choices. Maybe the big 4 west coast having to travel so far to B1G games will be a little deterrent, but the top stars that could and might consider BYU are likely to go elsewhere. I don’t see their recruiting changing out of the 60s, 50s range tops.

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A quick glance at CB reveals a strong inclination to seek out Brother Mendenhall to come back.

Me thinks Sister Holly Mendenhall may have an objection, and quite possibly an emphatic veto.

These people seem to have to completely forgotten the venom CB was hurling at Bronco after the Vegas Bowl when he announced he was moving to Charlottesville. (Then again, for all I know maybe they weren’t even born yet. It would make perfect sense if all the bizarro drama on Cougerboard was being orchestrated by a dozen 8 year olds.)

Calling their situation a train wreck is offensive to real train wrecks. It’s more like a B-52 with multiple nuclear weapons diving into the Pacific 200 yards from the Santa Monica pier.

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This says it all:

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No Pity for the Kitties.

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I remember when someone egged their DC’s car after TCU blew them out. That fanbase sure burns a lot of bridges with coaches.

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Any mention of Scalley, or are they apoplectic about anything Utah? He would be an upgrade IMO.

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I’ve seen mention of Scalley, too. In that case, they’re admiring his coaching and recruiting chops and waving off the time he called them pricks and they heard about it… which is pretty damn funny.

They’re in a bad place, even for them. But by spring, they’ll start foaming at the mouth again and yapping about how BYU is a solid dark horse to make the 12 team playoff.

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Darkhorse? They’ll be saying they are a favorite to make the playoff as a top 4 seed.

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And they will start out relatively well because they will be healthy to start and they are decent when healthy. Then the wheels will fall off again in late October and all of November. They just haven’t recruited well enough to have any depth. They use the portal to duct tape a good first string offense but that it.

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Here’s a story about the next Great Cougar Hope who’ll bring back 1984 for BYU. Or maybe 1996. You wait and see. It’s only a matter of time.

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He can be Jim McMahon, Steve Young, and John Elway all wrapped in one; but without receivers, RB’s and a OL from Hell, it won’t matter.

They maybe ought to ask Shadeur Sanders about it.

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One way to remove the curtains for men’s basketball at the Huntsman Center is to reduce the number of home games from the current 18 to 10. Culture changes, markets change, free time/entertainment competition changes. For all its faults, D-I football has a manageable discrete schedule that potential customers can more readily embrace.

I have no idea how people are interested in attending 41 NBA home games, that’s not even counting the pre-season games, does the NBA have pre-season games, I don’t really know/care. Plus, the NBA regular season is almost meaningless, seemingly half the teams are in the playoffs, which drags on forever.

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