Goodbye Coach Whittingham

Oh I don’t think anyone really cares about the business part.

I think it was Kyle’s rhetoric that’s gotten him the backlash.

Much like the “teach my kid to throw a curveball” line is what caused the angst in 2004.

20 years removed and that doesn’t matter.

As they say, never meet your heroes.

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Unquestionably true, historically.

The missing ingredient has been serious financial support to match what programs like Oregon were doing. A couple of years ago Whit said the best available evidence was they were spending about $20M on NIL. Last year TTech spend $28M on NIL… now in the playoffs.

It’s not as simple as shooting wads of cash out of an air gun, but the old Utah formula of finding diamonds in the rough and developing overlooked talent hit a ceiling.

Success begets success, and success with additional resources added should help close the gap, approximating what Indiana and TTech have done. A key is to not blow money and further ignite the existing arms race, but smoothly pull up to the table.

Can’t / won’t happen overnight, but should start to be noticeable.

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My concern is the arms race will always bring more money in to the bigger programs and each time we jump up one step, they will respond with two…

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It’s definitely there, though he softened things a little by explaining it was his decision to step down, then seek other opportunities, publicly said Utah’s been great.

It would really be interesting to get Taylor Randall’s perspective, but that may not happen for a while. He supposedly nixed the $10M-5 year extension idea.

The Scalley era has been in the works for a while, it seems Randall has been solidly on board with that idea, didn’t want it derailed.

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Looks like he’s taking Hill from BYU as well. Hopefully he raids their roster as well.

As my brother put it this morning, “Michigan isn’t a Big Ten school, it’s three big 12 schools in a trenchcoat!”

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I’m more than a bit hoping this signals an end to the ultra homer hiring practices in Utah. Constantly recycling Utah players and coaches is a waste of opportunity so many times. Bring in that new exotic outside blood!

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“We are not Michigan” No we are not. But, we are 3-1 against Michigan, with the only loss being 10-7, so there’s that

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I’m going to be less warm-hearted towards Kyle if he cleans out the talent on our coaching staff. Could he at least leave Harding?

Right now, according to an AI search, these are expected to go:

Jason Beck (conformed)
Micah Simon (WR coach)
Koy Detmer, Jr. (QB)
Fred Whittingham (TE)

Expected to stay:

Ron Bellamy (WR)
Steve Casula (TE)

Other Utah assistants? We don’t know.

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Nope.

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With the last win being over a decade ago in the pre-NIL era.

Things have changed a bit since

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You must be fun at parties.

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Scalley could offer the OC job to Harding, but clearly he has other plans.

There is a rumor out there of a Utah OC that makes me shudder, so I won’t bring it up or entertain it.

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:eyes::eyes::eyes:

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  1. I don’t think Harding wants to be OC

  2. Being the OC pretty much eliminates his ability to be an effective OL coach.

  3. Harding has spent 12 years with Kyle. Through all kinds of strange offense. I don’t think there was ever a scenario where Harding wasn’t going with Kyle once he decided retirement wasn’t what he was doing.

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Just trying to be realistic right now.

There’s a lot of Utah fans right now who are simply aghast that coaches and players would choose Michigan over Utah.

Look, I love Utah but I’d be far more shocked if they didn’t.

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Bringing Norm Chow out of retirement?? :wink:

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maybe I’m crazy, but I view Harding as a bigger loss than Beck. In my mind I keep seeing that clip of Harding confronting Whitt during a game saying, “fire me” thinking maybe there was a rift between the two.

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What’s former Wyoming coach Dave Christensen doing these days? Could he be lured away from his assistant manager of used cars sales title

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:laughing: :laughing:

I did hear Troy Taylor’s name mentioned in a non-joking way, which I’m really hoping was just stupid social media nonsense.

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Arent you supposeds to be in Mexico? I didnt call you while I was in Ogden because I thought you were getting ready to head out.

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