ECU vs the bad ugly kitties from Provo.
This is an easy one, Go Pirates!!!
Losing at home to a midrange G5 team at home. Hate to see it.
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BYU completes No Win October.
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Now all they need is a Nowinber next month too, and the meltdown is complete.
Need to get my Arc Welder helmet ready. 
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CB is usually amusing after they lose.
âRelax, they wonât fire the Polynesian Lavellâ
Wowser.
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I chose the source of this report deliberately.
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What kind of odds would you give tds vs. Boise next week? 
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Ordinarily, I would give BYU a good chance of beating Boise.
Something happened this year that really undermined morale. Maybe they were really buying that BS about being the PAC champs and then Oregon gutted them. I guess they really struggled vs Wyoming and USU. I think the chatter from the fans has been corrosive. It certainly led Bronco to bail out.
Iâm glad Jefe trimmed out the comment about the Polynesian Lavell - that kind of talk doesnât need to be tolerated.
Sports can be awesome or frustrating, but the way theyâre cannibalizing their own is really uncalled for. Sitake is a good coach who is being eaten alive by his own fan base. I knew he and Roderick when they were at Utah, they donât deserve this BS. Utopia knew them better, I know he must agree.
I guess the upside for Ute fans is it will make prospective coaches really, really wonder if itâs worth it. To the extent thereâs now a zero sum aspect involved because both programs are P5, that helps us a little, I suppose, in the intra-state market for recruits and eyeballs.
Itâs always possible to get a coach to come in and catch some fire and have success, but if Sitake takes off, that will be two pretty solid HCs in a row who couldnât overcome fan-enhanced morale problems.
Weâre not going to the CFP, but our team and the fan base are clearly in it for much more than that. The feel good goes beyond the scoreboard, thereâs a deeper connection. Even external broadcasters recognize itâs a pretty special situation. Not singularly unique, but pretty damn cool.
Whatâs going on in Provo is acute misery for the coaches, players and their families. Thatâs ridiculous.
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You and I both recall when for an LDS coach the BYU job was the professional pinnacle. That hasnât been true for a while now, probably since Gary Crowton. Itâs interesting to think about.
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What is going on down there goes back to something Urban Meyer said when he was hereâŚ
When you look across the football landscape the starting players for all the teams are pretty equal in talentâŚwhere they are different is when the starters are out of the game. Can the backups maintain the momentum, or find another level?
Those who lived through the 1980âs teams here know this all too well. Lose a starting RB, the backup isnât as big of fast. Lose a starting QB, the playbook shrinks for a ton of reasonsâŚand the list goes on. Kalaniâs starters are as good as anyoneâs. This backupsâŚnot so much (and itâs not for trying on his and his staffâs part). All TDSfan has to do is look around the field. Those physical games against Baylor, Oregon, Notre Dame and Arkansas wiped out a lot of key starters. They took the field last night against the Privateers with a lot of backups, since their starters on on the sidelines all busted up. A loss was in the realm of possibilities. Next week the Smurfs will likely beat them, and they need the win to keep bowl eligibility alive. They arenât beating âFurd.
They better get used to this pattern for several years (or more) because the buzz saw of the BIG 12 will do it to them again, and again. No matter who their HC is, if they canât stack the program with a depth of high performing talent, just like now their team will be irrelevant by mid season. 1984 was more than a few lifetimes ago in College Fottball and is completely irrelevant now. Kalani knows what to do to build success. Their idiot fans need to get out of the manâs way and let him do it.
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Great observations.
Remember when Kyle was faced with a decision, right after Urban left? Go back to his alma mater or keep things going after the sky-high Fiesta Bowl season here. He consulted with Urban, who said the expectations monster might be higher at Utah initially, but we had longer term upside.
History has validated KWâs decision, many times over.
Kyle weathered some transition difficulties - in being a HC, and definitely a transition to the P12 - but the turbulence was never acutely serious.
The intensity and magnitude of issues that come up over and over again in Provo make that a completely different situation. Itâs like they have no idea how to be decent, veteran, circumspect fans of CFB. (Iâm sure some do - Iâm generalizing.)
My sense is this season is too much like the 2017 when things went really bad, and ultimately it was blamed on Holmoe hiring Detmer as OC before hiring the head coach, and afterward Kalani righted the ship, somewhat. The Covid year was like 1984, except Coastal Carolina.
Then, inevitably, once they got the Big-12 invite, the fanbase started getting entirely incoherent again, and knocking us off last year, along with the great Covid year and toppling 4 other PAC schools who overlooked them, set things up for mass insanity again this year.
Wilson really was lucky to have beaten out Jaren Hall to be the starter, you see, and the sky really is the limit.
When the top of the volcano collapses, that cauldron is down there a ways.
Another analogy from nature is summer time thunderstorm formation and dissipation. No gentle rain and stratus clouds, they canât go for that. It has to be the rockiest, craziest experience possible.
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Given what is out there in the Coaching Carousel right now, their coaching staff could end up totally ghosting, leaving Holme to pick up the pieces. Moving to Boulder or Tempe wouldnât suck at all.
They wonâtâŚbut then again Roscoe and a number of his staff did, soâŚ
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I seriously worry about Kalani. Over the course of time and stress and comfort food and big Tongan get togethers & feasts, he got pretty big.
He lost some impressive amount of weight over the offseason, like 50 lbs or so, but mother nature is not kind to people in acutely stressful situations over any amount of time, especially people who are flirting with some measures weâre all trying to avoid.
I canât imagine Kalaniâs family has any enthusiasm for him staying through the end of his contract. Iâm sure he wants / needs to find a high note to get to, but thatâs not a long term gig down there. It just isnât. Heâs a really smart guy, I think in the back of his mind he knows this, and⌠these things have a way of getting conveyed to players, in a tacit way.
(Example: Oregon last year with Cristobal. We were playing with a higher purpose, but that was weird how he ended up being a joke of Stephen A. Smith. âWhatever you do in Miami, coach, DONâT PLAY UTAH!â)
Kalaniâs a great guy, I donât want to see what could very well happen.
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Not sure I agree that BYUâs starters are âas good as anyoneâs.â Nacua is really good, and BYU lucked out that he fell into their lap from Washington. Hall is good too, though he hasnât been the past few weeks. Their other receiver, Epps, is a nice player too, as are a couple of their offensive linemen. But their RBs are mediocre.
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Letâs not forget Pukaâs brother Sampson wanted him to âplay on a bigger stage than the Univ of Utahâ when he was being recruited. Howâd that work out Mr Nacua?
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I wont pretend to know whats wrong with BYU, but they are the most bipolar college football program. At times they can beat many quality football programs while simultaneously embarissingly lose to almost anyone. Sometimes in the same season
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If Kyle retires , Scalley becomes HC and Kalani returns as DC
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Amazing there are so many triggered kiddos from down south
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I thought I would be disappointed, but at least one of them mentioned pouring beer on zoobs.
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As any of us beer drinkers knows, if you take the time to smuggle a beer in, youâre going to drink it. Why would someone waste a good beer?
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